roxybisquaint: (cromartie the man)
How I can still catch something in an episode of TSCC that I never caught before is crazy, but it happened again.

I was watching Born to Run tonight and picked up on some actual evidence to support the theory that John Henry did not jump to the future: After Cameron and John Henry exchange their little "hello" greetings and he asks her if she'll join them, Cameron whips out her knife and closes the door. The door fills the screen and you don't get a visual of the full closure, but you do get the sound of it latching. So we know it's closed all the way. When John and the others arrive, however, the door to John Henry's room is open. It's not wide open, but it's open enough to show that Cameron's closing of it was not that last time that door was touched.

We've got motive: save Savannah, confront brother AI. We've got no pile of clothes on the floor or any other disruption to the room that might indicate a time jump. And we've got an open door. This juror has finally reached a verdict: John Henry is definitely still in 2009.
roxybisquaint: (sarah no fate)
I was just browsing through the Allison from Palmdale thread on the Sarah Connor Society forum and I found this post by me from September 30, 2008...

"I still say it's too pervy for a 30-year-old John to be gettin' it on with a 16, maybe 17-year-old Alison even in post-apocalyptic times. UNLESS future!John gets killed and current John jumps forward in time to take his place sometime soon."

roxybisquaint: (savannah foot tap animation)
The idea of Sarah working with Ellison isn't something I find plausible, but I expect it to happen anyway. Why? Because I think that was always Ellison's intended role. I don't mean he was meant to be Sarah's permanent partner (No, God no); I mean to be an ally to some extent, at least for a while. The character changed course, though, and by the time we get to drone smash, it seems impossible for Ellison to ever be redeemed much less trusted enough for Sarah to consider working with him. But I think I finally found a way for the man to be of some use.

I'm still holding with the idea that John Henry did not jump the future. I still believe he tricked Weaver into jumping so he'd be free to go confront his Kaliba brother and protect Savannah. And I think the fact that he didn't jump will be deduced pretty quickly, leaving where he might've gone as the mystery they'll need to solve.

"Gymnasics ends at 5:30."

I think Savannah's going be picked up a little early by an odd man in khaki trousers and a light blue shirt. Ellison will figure that out, but it'll be too late — John Henry will have already vanished with her and there won't be any riddles-for-clues in this game of hide and seek. Since Sarah and Ellison both have a stake in finding them, they'll be forced to work together.

It would be way more fun if she just pulled a gun and gave him until the count of three to figure out where the metal took the girl, but I kind of doubt that'll happen. Anyway, I'm reminded of this exchange from when Sarah was heading off to the chess tournament:

"Mom, it's chess. You don't know anything about chess."

"I know a bit about Andy."

Ellison may not understand the game he's been playing, but he does know a bit about John Henry. He also knows about the worm attack, the Cyberdyne code base, the "brother" AI and he's actually played hide and seek with John Henry before with Savannah. All of that that makes him useful to Sarah. Between what she knows about Kaliba and what Ellison knows about John Henry, they'll be able to figure this thing out.

It'll be a tense and temporary alliance born of necessity, but maybe, just maybe Ellison will find some redemption in the process (and finally have a little fucking faith in Sarah Connor). And then he can get a bullet to the head... Or go paint a picture for the cops and join Silberman in Pescadero ;)

Okay, fine. When it's all over, he can go live happily ever after with Savannah and the widow Dyson (yeah, she'll factor into all of this because of Danny and Kaliba).
roxybisquaint: (sarah hope)
In Born to Run, Cameron tells John that Sarah has lost 11% of her body mass in the last six weeks. By my fuzzy math, that would mean she'd lost about 12lbs. Twelve pounds. On someone her size, it would be impossible for Sarah not to notice that. Yet no more than a few days earlier, in To the Lighthouse, the doctor asked if she'd had "any unexplained weight loss, fever or night sweats". The only thing Sarah noted was feeling nauseated. She made no mention of weight loss at all.

The cancer story has been suspicious since the beginning since all we've got to go on is Cameron's word. She lies when she deems it necessary and what little information she provided in Gnothi Seauton was vague: "You died, December 4, 2005" and "cancer." That's it. That's the extent of the data on the death of Sarah Connor. It might've been helpful if Sarah had actually asked her more, but she didn't and Cameron didn't offer it.

Sarah did, however, ask Cameron about her diagnostic skills — whether she could analyze blood or scan someone. Though Cameron later analyzes John's blood drops on the sidewalk in Samson & Delilah and assesses library boy Eric's cancer in Self Made Man, she tells Sarah no. Actually, she sidesteps the blood analysis question and rephrases the scan question so it's specifically about CAT scans. Then she says no. So I guess she wasn't so much lying as withholding truth.

The only time I felt like we could believe Cameron about Sarah's cancer was in Automatic for the People. It was just a few days after the glitch and her decision-making was clearly impaired. She seemed less calculated, more honest, and it made me believe that Cameron believed Sarah Connor died of cancer in 2005. And when she told Sarah she didn't know if she was still going to get sick or if her exposure at the power plant would be the cause, I believed that too.

That brings me to the title of this post and that little vial Cameron pulls out of the safety deposit box in the bank vault in the pilot.

"What is it?"


I think Sarah Connor did die of cancer in 2005 and I think that cancer was just starting to develop in 1999. Sarah wouldn't know about it for a while yet, maybe even years. But Cameron knew. Based on surviving medical records and some research into cancer, she deduced that 1999 was the best point in time to go after Sarah's cancer and... kill it before it was born. 1999 was the best point in time to hand her that weapon, made by their best engineer, and make sure she exposed herself to a good, strong isotope blast that could target the cancer cells.

Whether or not firing that gun really cured Sarah is unknown. Cameron couldn't be sure if the plan would work and she was keeping tabs on her health all along in case it didn't. But that weight loss she noted in Adam Raised a Cain and Born to Run? That was a lie.

ETA: Updated this because it wasn't "in the last 3 months" that Sarah supposedly lost 11% of her mass, it was in the last six weeks (which makes it even more unbelievable). Also, it's in Born to Run where Cameron gives the percentage. In Adam Raised a Cain, she only says "she's lost weight".
roxybisquaint: (savannah foot tap animation)
You guys already know that I don't think John Henry time-jumped. I think he used Cameron's chip (or repaired and used the water cooler terminator's chip) and left Zeira Corp to go find his AI brother in present day. This post isn't really about that theory, though. This time, I'm just analyzing the situation.

"You can't bring anything through when you come—not weapons, not clothing, nothing."

If John Henry did jump, where is his clothing? It should've been in a pile on the floor, but it wasn't. Clothing doesn't go through, so it either gets disintegrated by the time bubble or left behind by the time bubble. Since Cameron's clothed body was sitting there in the chair (and the chair and table were there), we can rule out disintegration. She was clearly within the sphere of the time bubble when Weaver and John left, so she would have been within the sphere when John Henry left too. Yet Cameron's body was clothed and intact and John Henry's clothes were not there.

Was that a hint that he didn't actually jump ahead or was it just a gaff?
roxybisquaint: (f(s)=s)
And why did I not think of this before?!

Cameron's chip! That's what the AI was after in To the Lighthouse! Duh. It's so clear to me now. The goons obviously knew Cameron was a machine, which is why they nabbed Derek and only fired some shots at her as they took off. Derek was the bait to lure Cameron into a trap (the water at the warehouse). No revelations there, but I always thought the AI (on the phone) was instructing the goon on how to pull her chip so they could disable her. It never occurred to me that the AI needed a chip FOR ITSELF. And not just any old chip. Cameron is "special". She has the most powerful neural net processor in the world — able to infiltrate entire traffic systems in a single bound! (Also it doesn't self-destruct when you pull it out).

Kaliba has coltan and the AI got endo schematics from John Henry when it hacked him with the worm. It had what it needed to build itself a body, but without a chip, a body would do it no good. Of course, it could've just used Cameron's body too, but y'know, John Henry said it was his "brother" so maybe advanced AIs have gender identity ;) Or maybe it actually needs to look like someone specific that's male.

So why did the AI need to be mobile? Who the fuck knows. It had the worm that could give it control of other computer systems and it had the backdoor access to military systems thanks to Fisher's handiwork. Why it would need to be a walking "human" to initiate judgement day, I haven't a clue. Seems to me everything was in place. Obviously not, though, or it would've already done it. So there's clearly more to be accomplished before the apocalypse can commence.

Onto John Henry...

He had the damaged chip from the Kaliba water cooler terminator that Weaver wanted him to try to gleen info from. I have no doubt that he succeeded in doing so and now has info about Kaliba. Perhaps he knows their targets (Savannah, himself and the whole damn human race!). Perhaps he knows their plans (apocalypse!). And perhaps he knows the current whereabouts of Kaliba (and the AI).

When Cameron enters the room, he shares this information. "My brother wanted your chip so he could [insert Kaliba master plan here]. I can stop him, but I'm tethered to this pretty box with the retconned 3 lights."

"That really is a pretty box." Cameron says. "You can put me in there and take my chip. Maybe Sarah will like me better if I have 3 dots anyway. I should probably leave John a note, though."

And this, my friends, makes my wacky theory of old work: Neither Cameron nor John Henry are in the future. They're both still in 2009. But the writers would probably do a little better with the dialog ;)
roxybisquaint: (cameron damaged)
I haven't had my jameronectomy reversed, if that's what you're thinking. But it's clear that there was some sort of relationship between John and Cameron in the future that she came from and I've been thinking about what it was and why it came about.

"He wasn't talking to anyone anymore, just her."

I've decided John became attached to Cameron in the future because he was depressed about having sent Kyle away on his one-way mission to 1984 1983. That's no doubt a point when he would've been at his lowest — feeling horrible, guilty and sad and unable to tell anyone why. It was a huge loss and he had to grieve alone. So I think John closed himself off from the people around him and retreated inward. But by then, a reprogrammed Cameron was there (I'm thinking she was his bodyguard) and he found himself talking to her — finding companionship with a machine who would never die.

From a timeline standpoint, I think it fits. Based on what Perry told Derek in D&D, reprogrammed machines were already being used by the Resistance by the time Kyle left. So all the reprogramming started in between Derek getting nabbed and Kyle time jumping. Since the show implies that it was Cameron who interrogated Derek in the creepy basement, Allison would've already been dead by then and her bracelet in Cam's possession. Once she got the location of the bunker from Derek, she would've been on her way to infiltrate and kill John.
roxybisquaint: (sarah cameron badass)
Theory, glorious theory!

John Henry's "brother" tried to kill him and also wants Savannah dead. Those are two good reasons for John Henry to want to stop him. So why jump to the future to destroy the AI that's after him and Savannah in the present? Well, I don't think he did. I think John Henry is still in 2009 and after finding out Kaliba's location from the water cooler terminator's chip, he went after him.

Weaver seemed certain he'd jumped to the future, so I'll assume John Henry fooled her by making it look like he'd jumped. He could've messed with the display screen or maybe even sent an empty time bubble ahead to make it more convincing. She had told John Henry that Savannah's survival depended on his but his survival didn't depend on hers. That implies that Weaver was really only concerned about protecting John Henry and I think we can be sure John Henry would want to try to protect Savannah.

If Weaver knew he'd gone off to confront his brother, she'd probably find him and bring him back. She'd already asked Murch about packing everything up, so John Henry knew she was prepared to move him to keep him safe (A "mother" moving her "son" to keep him safe seems rather familiar, doesn't it?). But he didn't want to run away, didn't want to hide and didn't want to leave Savannah at risk. So even though he wasn't yet prepared to fight and maybe didn't know what kind of situation he'd be heading into, John Henry faked-out Weaver. I believe he walked out of Zeira Corp to go have a "computer vs computer" showdown with his Kaliba brother — who meant him harm and meant Savannah harm.

But wait, there's more... )
roxybisquaint: (sarah kyle once)
It's really not so wacky (your heads are safe).

I don't think Derek killed Jesse, so I've been trying to figure out if we'd ever run into her again in present day. I can't see any reason to have a time traveler wandering about without being part of the story, so we must not be be done with her. But with Riley dead, Derek dead, John away in the future and Cameron out of commission, Jesse doesn't exactly have anything to do these days. Hmm...

The miscarriage tidbit they shoehorned into her story at the last minute didn't make any sense at all. In fact, I thought it weakened the character considerably. Instead of being a dedicated soldier trying to fix her commander, she became a chick with a personal grudge. That's no good at all. And we know TSCC is better than that. So then why the miscarriage? It's not like it died with Jesse's story either; Cameron mentions it to Derek in To the Lighthouse ("You lost a child. Sarah almost lost her child."). There must be more to it.

Try this on for size... )
roxybisquaint: (sarah shock therapy)
Q. What are you cooking up in that brain of yours?

I will post this wackiness later. Heads might explode.

I love TSCC. Love.
roxybisquaint: (sarah seeker truth)
As you know, I wasn't happy with the season finale of TSCC (see Born to Fail part 1), but I think I could still talk about it and analyze it and speculate about it for months (which I absolutely will if the show gets renewed and maybe even if it doesn't). "Born to Run" circled back to the start of the series and hit on so many episodes in its wrap up that I could spend hours talking about that alone. Maybe that's why it felt so series finale-ish. But in that, I do digress.

God I love this show. Even when it lets me down, it never does.

What I've got here are my thought leftovers and since I didn't want them to spoil, they had to be posted. )
roxybisquaint: (john eww)
I was never happy about the John retcon in "Today is the Day part 2". It just didn't add up. He never acted like he had a clue about Riley until "Ourselves Alone", but that didn't give him any time to follow her around, learn about Jesse or figure out the plot. So that's where I've been stuck for a long time. And believing he figured anything out before that doesn't work for me because it requires the acceptance of too much off-camera cleverness and a ta-da! reveal. For a show that spends so much time on character and plot steps, it felt really false.

Well, I've found a way to make that whole thing work that I really like. It not only works based on what we actually saw, it does so without taking anything away from John's cleverness. And more importantly, it allows me to enjoy his confrontation with Jesse without rolling my eyes. So here goes...

He never did follow Riley around. It was a bluff.

John didn't figure anything out until Sarah told him about Riley's "bleached skulls" breakdown and blabbing about the Mexico trip. He knew he hadn't told her about judgement day, so that's the moment he realized Riley was future girl. He then backtracks through the time he spent with her — backtracks to carrots and apples, how she was in Mexico, etc. It all fits. I also think Sarah saying "I don't believe you" is what makes it the "bad day" John refers to when he later talks to Jesse.

He knew it was unlikely that Cameron killed Riley once he saw the body, which meant her death was either a random crime or she was killed by a co-conspirator. Future girl dropping into his life pretending not to be future girl logically meant there was a plot of some sort. So that's the idea he started running with — there's another future person somewhere who's involved and who likely killed Riley. But who and why?

John talks to Derek, fishing for information and it all comes out. John probably tells him that Riley was from the future and must have been plotting something. He isn't sure what, but suspects it might be an attempt to frame Cameron for murder — maybe an attempt to get him to turn on Cameron. Bingo. Derek makes the connection to Jesse. That also explains why we had to have that scene where Jesse was callous about Riley's death and Derek was all innocent life lost is horrible! It gives Derek something from his own experience to connect into what John has already figured out. Between the two of them, they unravel the whole plot.

John has Derek take him to Jesse, where he confronts her about it all. At that point he does know everything, but he bluffs about having figured it out a while back and bluffs that he gambled with Riley's life so that he could win the game. The reason he bluffs is to intimidate Jesse and prevent her from thinking that it might have worked or that she almost won. He bluffs to win the game right then and there. And he bluffs to make it known that you don't fuck with John Connor.

It works really well for me because it allows John be intelligent, gutsy, clever and not retconned.
roxybisquaint: (andy turk chess)
Q: What do Weaver, Derek & Andy Goode have in common?

"Sleep is the perfect cover. Your mind's still active but you don't remember a thing."

Before actually seeing Some Must Watch, While Some Must Sleep, I was sure the whole sleep clinic thing was going to be a Skynet research facility messing with people's brains during sleep and it would eventually lead to whatever happened to Derek in the creepy basement. Obviously the episode didn't turn out that way and the sleep clinic itself was just a dream. But that line Sarah says when she's freaking out in that room in the basement of the sleep clinic is, I think, still a hint at what happened to Derek.

Theory ahead >> )
roxybisquaint: (sarah expletive)
After going over the previews for this episode and piecing it together with clips from the WonderCon video, [ profile] life_on_queen and I brewed up some heavily caffeinated ideas. You know what that means, don't you?

That right, it's THEORY TIME!

Are you ready? )
roxybisquaint: (sarah wizard of oz)
"This is it. There's nothing else behind the curtain. This is what I do, it's all I do."
— Sarah to Ellison in Mr Ferguson is Ill Today.

Sarah is the wizard and she's trying desperately to get Dorothy (John) home again (a normal life).

I've always assumed future!John was the man behind the curtain because he's pulling the strings from the future. But that line from Mr Ferguson has been stuck in my mind ever since that episode. With all the Wizard of Oz references, that couldn't possibly just be a throw-away line. It has meaning. And before that, in Goodbye to All That, we had Sarah reading the Wizard of Oz and (I think) coming to the realization that John is essentially Dorothy. Until the wicked witch is dead — until his fate is changed, he can never truly be free to live his life.

So even while future!John is the one sending back missions (messages to his mom from the future), it's Sarah who's in the position to actually change things. She's the one who has the power to alter the future and everything she does either gets John a step closer to his fate or a step closer to "home".
roxybisquaint: (sarah bombs)
More random theories:

Those 3 dots are a date pertaining to Serrano Point.

The blood dots are next to Greenway on the wall, so I think they have something to do with the power plant. In Self Made Man, we learn that you can pinpoint a date with 3 stars (well maybe some of you geeks already knew that eh?). But the blood dots couldn't be indicating any specific date because it's not possible to be anywhere close to that accurate. So I think the dots are there to indicate that there's an important date surrounding Serrano Point that requires their attention.

We've been given 2 dates in regards to Serrano Point:
- Battle of Avila Beach on Dec 8, 2026
- Plant opening in August 2009

I doubt it has anything to do with the battle (though I do find it curious that we were given that specific date). So I'm inclined to think that the 3 dots are about the plant opening. If metal!Greenway had succeeded, the plant would have melted down, been unusable in the future and potentially contaminated the entire area (Skynet wins). But in stopping Greenway, it opened the door for automation, which probably means Skynet would retain control over it in the future (Skynet wins). So I'm thinking that stopping metal!Greenway was only step 1 in that mission. Step 2 is to prevent the plant from going online with an automated control room.

Sarah is going to eventually get cancer that starts in her upper left arm.

I had this theory back in eps 1 & 2 this season because there was a lot of focus put on her arm wound. When she got the contamination scrub-down at the power plant, they even made it a point to show that wound get scrubbed (and that episode was all cancer, cancer, cancer). But then her arm healed so I gave up the theory. In Self Made man, however, we're back to a cancer story, with Cameron's friend Eric. He had bone cancer and Cameron informs him it's returned in the long bone of his arm (upper arm). This could be some foreshadowing, so I'm back to my Sarah theory. And while I'm at it, I'll pass along another theory I read last season after The Turk, that Sarah will get leukemia that can be cured with terminator blood. It's a little BSG-ish, but also a very cool idea.

Baby references?

I still have no theories on all the baby references this season. We're probably like 3 months (in Connor time) since the pilot, right? If Sarah had jumped through time pregnant, she'd know it by now. I really hope it's not that Riley gets pregnant with John's baby. Anyone else have any baby theories? It's all gotta mean something.
roxybisquaint: (sarah hmm...)
Theory time!
No spoilers, just speculation.

I'm predicting that it was Jesse that shot bloody future soldier as he was getting ready to time jump. I figure his coming through wounded indicates that either the resistance's time machine facility was being overrun by metal or one faction of the resistance was fighting another at the moment he went through. I'm opting for the latter. While it could be "the greys" fighting, I tend to think they're more subversive info carriers, not a fighting force. So I think it's Jesse's group that was shooting.

I've been trying to figure out what Riley's deal is. We know she's working with Jesse and it seems her job is to get close to John and get him to reveal something. But what exactly she's trying to get John to reveal is unclear. So I'm thinking that Jesse wants to know if the bloody future fighter made it through time alive and successfully delivered his message (the blood wall info) to the Connors. And perhaps the most significant piece of info that Jesse's worried about is the 3 dots.


misc thoughts:

I also have a really bad feeling about John telling Riley about Charley. I don't think mentioning the info about Sarah is a problem, but he sure is quick to whip out the "my mother was in a mental hospital and I had to live with foster parents," isn't he? I think he told Derek that the first day he was up and around after his gunshot wound. And now he tells Riley right after seeing what a manipulative chick she is. Dude, I know you're desperate for some sympathy, but get a clue!

A cool little tidbit I caught about Riley. In Self Made Man, she tells John that her real parents died in a fire. Well, if she's 16 and she came from 2027, that makes her born in 2011. If her parents really did die in a fire, I'm going to take a wild guess and say that fire was judgement day. Someone obviously found baby Riley and raised her (maybe even those hippie "foster parents" who called her "the deviant", though she probably made that up).

On a mostly unrelated note: I really want a tommy gun :D
roxybisquaint: (sarah no fate)
Happiness is...
An hour long discussion with the man about time travel.

I've always gone with the multiple timelines theory, but [ profile] life_on_queen argues there's a single timeline in the TSCC verse. So after a brief "single timeline!" / "multiple timelines!" exchange, I took the discussion to real life and mentioned it to the man. He wasn't interested in talking about it. "Single timeline," he said. "Let's watch TV."


I grabbed pen and paper, started drawing diagrams and talking about Derek and Jesse. Next thing you know, the man is all into it, grabbing my pen and paper and drawing his own diagrams. Much debate and pages of back and forth scribbles later (with a very annoying pen that kept refusing to write), he declared there must be multiple timelines (and also "let's watch TV").

Here is a coherent version (I think) of what we came up with:

UPDATE: There's, um, more. Headaches ahoy! )

roxybisquaint: (andy turk chess)
I don't know if any of you saw the Andy Goode theory I formulated back in March, but the gist of it was that because of his path crossing with Sarah he would not have been the guy who created Skynet, but rather the guy to prevent it. The AI never would have gotten "angry" if Andy had developed it because he had a desire to understand it and communicate with it on a personal level.

Andy's gone now, but I think part of that idea may be coming through in Catherine's story. She picked up where Andy left off in advancing the AI. I'm not sure of her end goal at this point. That eel in the fish tank still screams EEEEVIL to me and her wardrobe is growing darker with each passing episode (started out white and has moved through progressively darker shades of grey). So the likely scenario is that she's intending to birth Skynet... until we factor in Sherman and Ellison.

Sherman prompted Catherine, a machine, to start acting more human towards her daughter while also helping her to understand the AI from a more human perspective. Enter Ellison, who informs Catherine that a thinking machine with no morals or ethics is dangerous. And now it would seem he's going to help in that regard by teaching John Henry the 10 Commandments and more. Regardless of Catherine's original intention, what she may end up with isn't a machine that kills without conscience, but rather a machine that understands the meaning of death and, by extension, the value of life. I think this may be a game-changing moment.

There's been an on-going debate with TSCC about whether or not judgement day can actually be prevented. We've been told the future's not set and that there's no fate but what you make. Yet no matter what Sarah does, the grim future only gets delayed — the AI that leads to Skynet always springs back up. It seems inevitable that it'll develop, be implemented by the military and the apocalypse will follow. Maybe that's because the approach has always been to try to thwart the progress of the technology rather than to try to change the nature of the technology. And I'm starting to think that changing the technology is how the Connors can actually win the war.


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