A: The creepy basement from D&D
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roxybisquaintQ: What do Weaver, Derek & Andy Goode have in common?
"Sleep is the perfect cover. Your mind's still active but you don't remember a thing."
Before actually seeing Some Must Watch, While Some Must Sleep, I was sure the whole sleep clinic thing was going to be a Skynet research facility messing with people's brains during sleep and it would eventually lead to whatever happened to Derek in the creepy basement. Obviously the episode didn't turn out that way and the sleep clinic itself was just a dream. But that line Sarah says when she's freaking out in that room in the basement of the sleep clinic is, I think, still a hint at what happened to Derek.
When Derek was taken down to the creepy basement in the flashbacks in Dungeons & Dragons, I think he was drugged into a sleep state and the liquid metal (Weaver) extracted information from him and implanted information in him.
About a year ago, I came up with a theory that Wisher had been brainwashed into believing he invented Skynet and was also implanted with the urge to confess it to Derek. It's a long and convoluted theory, but I'm still holding onto bits and pieces of it because I'm sure I've got some things right. The basic idea behind part of the theory is that Andy wasn't the creator of Skynet, but a hindrance to it (Andy wanted to understand his AI, not just rush the advancement of it). So Skynet wanted him removed from the equation to accelerate its development.
The reason my theory was so thin is because it hinged on Andy being brainwashed to confess to Derek and Derek being brainwashed to want to do something about it. But for any of that to work, Skynet would have had to know that Derek would get sent back in time (and how could it know that?).
Now, however, it's looking a little more possible. With what we've seen of 2027, future!John may not even be around (maybe even dead) and Cameron, who John confided in, seems to be running things. That means she may have been the one to send Derek back. We also now know there's liquid metal in 2027 (that I'm quite sure is Weaver) that Cameron has attempted to form an alliance with. Maybe they eventually meet and Weaver learns enough info that she formulates the whole plot for Derek to kill Andy. Maybe Weaver convinces Cameron to send Derek back or maybe Weaver just finds out Cameron is going to send Derek back.
I'm still not quite sure how it all fits together, but I feel certain that what happened to Derek (and Wisher) in the creepy basement involved sleep-induced brainwashing techniques that resulted in Wisher confessing to Derek and Derek going back in time to kill Andy. And I'm thinking Weaver was behind it all. In present time, Weaver seems to be accelerating the development of Skynet and she was able to do that because she acquired Andy's Turk to develop as she saw fit. It's all too much of a coincidence.
"Sleep is the perfect cover. Your mind's still active but you don't remember a thing."
Before actually seeing Some Must Watch, While Some Must Sleep, I was sure the whole sleep clinic thing was going to be a Skynet research facility messing with people's brains during sleep and it would eventually lead to whatever happened to Derek in the creepy basement. Obviously the episode didn't turn out that way and the sleep clinic itself was just a dream. But that line Sarah says when she's freaking out in that room in the basement of the sleep clinic is, I think, still a hint at what happened to Derek.
When Derek was taken down to the creepy basement in the flashbacks in Dungeons & Dragons, I think he was drugged into a sleep state and the liquid metal (Weaver) extracted information from him and implanted information in him.
About a year ago, I came up with a theory that Wisher had been brainwashed into believing he invented Skynet and was also implanted with the urge to confess it to Derek. It's a long and convoluted theory, but I'm still holding onto bits and pieces of it because I'm sure I've got some things right. The basic idea behind part of the theory is that Andy wasn't the creator of Skynet, but a hindrance to it (Andy wanted to understand his AI, not just rush the advancement of it). So Skynet wanted him removed from the equation to accelerate its development.
The reason my theory was so thin is because it hinged on Andy being brainwashed to confess to Derek and Derek being brainwashed to want to do something about it. But for any of that to work, Skynet would have had to know that Derek would get sent back in time (and how could it know that?).
Now, however, it's looking a little more possible. With what we've seen of 2027, future!John may not even be around (maybe even dead) and Cameron, who John confided in, seems to be running things. That means she may have been the one to send Derek back. We also now know there's liquid metal in 2027 (that I'm quite sure is Weaver) that Cameron has attempted to form an alliance with. Maybe they eventually meet and Weaver learns enough info that she formulates the whole plot for Derek to kill Andy. Maybe Weaver convinces Cameron to send Derek back or maybe Weaver just finds out Cameron is going to send Derek back.
I'm still not quite sure how it all fits together, but I feel certain that what happened to Derek (and Wisher) in the creepy basement involved sleep-induced brainwashing techniques that resulted in Wisher confessing to Derek and Derek going back in time to kill Andy. And I'm thinking Weaver was behind it all. In present time, Weaver seems to be accelerating the development of Skynet and she was able to do that because she acquired Andy's Turk to develop as she saw fit. It's all too much of a coincidence.
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on 2009-03-28 02:01 pm (UTC)I reckon Sarah's crazy contributed to Charlie's death - if Cameron and Derek had been around he would have stood a much greater chance of surviving. However, I think Charlie wanted to die right there and go out fighting.
Cyberdyne! So were those goons - they weren't Terminators, they were human - just hired mercs or is the Cyberdyne AI owned (well, notionally anyway) by Uncle Sam and those men being Government Agents of some sort?
We saw the three dots anyhow.
(Summer/Cameron gets shinier every time she's on the screen. I wonder if Derek will let Cameron wear Jesse's jacket? Her current one has bullet holes now.)
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on 2009-04-01 01:36 am (UTC)I suspect all those Kaliba goons are greys.
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on 2009-04-01 06:50 am (UTC)The Greys hypothesis is amusing but, sadly, unsupported by the facts.