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on 2009-05-18 04:39 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] spectralbovine.livejournal.com
I stopped hoping a long time ago, so all my emotion has faded regarding this bullshit, but yeah.

on 2009-05-18 04:49 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] sabaceanbabe.livejournal.com
I hate Fox.

on 2009-05-18 04:50 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] gothamite66.livejournal.com


Couldn't say it better.

on 2009-05-18 04:55 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxybisquaint.livejournal.com
A long time ago? Oh, dude, I had to stick it out to the sad end. I had to grasp on to every bit of hope even while preparing myself for the worst.

on 2009-05-18 04:56 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxybisquaint.livejournal.com
Me too. I can't believe they did this.

on 2009-05-18 04:57 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxybisquaint.livejournal.com
I'm just kind of at a loss for words. I feel empty.

on 2009-05-18 04:59 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] sabaceanbabe.livejournal.com
I don't even understand how they could cancel TSCC and keep Dollhouse, and I'm one of the few people I know who actually LIKES Dollhouse. I don't think I can even watch it, now.

on 2009-05-18 05:04 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] spectralbovine.livejournal.com
As time went on and the entire world was all CHUCK CHUCK CHUCK DOLLHOUSE DOLLHOUSE DOLLHOUSE DOLLHOUSE and not a word was breathed about SCC ever, I knew there wouldn't be a shot. The media banded behind Chuck and were more interested in Dollhouse's chances because it was Joss. And, unfortunately and bizarrely, SCC wasn't actually as universally adored by critics as it ought to have been. So there wasn't a lot of pressure on Fox.

I mean, I really have no idea what role the media and critics play in these decisions, but I do know that if I were a network, I'd care more about the show everyone was talking about, you know? I could be making stuff up.

I'm actually kind of surprised how little I'm affected. I broke down crying when Veronica Mars was finally cancelled, and that sure wasn't that big of a surprise either. That was different, though, I guess. You're into SCC the way I was into VM. Probably more.

on 2009-05-18 05:08 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] gothamite66.livejournal.com

I feel like I lost a family member.

on 2009-05-18 05:10 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxybisquaint.livejournal.com
That seems so ridiculous and yet I feel that way too. God it really does hit hard.

on 2009-05-18 05:35 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxybisquaint.livejournal.com
Yeah that baffles me too. I didn't like Dollhouse, but my husband did, I know you did and plenty of others did. Yet it's ratings tanked once TSCC was done. So you'd think they would've kept those shows together to see how the Friday night sci-fi block would do in the fall. But instead they replace TSCC with sitcoms?! That's a slap in the face. It really is.

I don't want to be bitter at Dollhouse or wish for it's demise because it's petty and cruel to Dollhouse fans who might very well be in this same position in December or May of next year. But honestly, I don't know if I can help myself. I don't think I can help but wish for Fox's Friday night to crash and burn.

on 2009-05-18 05:39 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] sabaceanbabe.livejournal.com
The asshats at Fox renewed/canceled the two in such a way that I'm bitter at Dollhouse fans and I'm one of them, so I don't blame you at all. (But if you take it out on me, I'll kick yer ass. ;) I kind of want Dollhouse to fail in the ratings now, too. Maybe that'll give Joss the kick in the pants he needs to start looking at doing an all on-line show, like he's been talking about.

I will never understand the so-called mind of the TV executive.

on 2009-05-18 05:45 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxybisquaint.livejournal.com
But if you take it out on me, I'll kick yer ass. ;)

You deserve some kind of medal for actually making me crack a smile today.

Edited on 2009-05-18 05:45 pm (UTC)

on 2009-05-18 06:04 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] caporali.livejournal.com
Me too... FOX is just hopeless. I sort of like Dollhouse a little -- I watched it sometimes just because it came after TSCC. I doubt I'll keep watching it next year, though... Now in my mind Dollhouse is responsible for the end of TSCC, which is a show I truly, deeply loved. I will miss it terribly. :(

on 2009-05-18 06:36 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] smacky-ff.livejournal.com
Yeah, there are not other words for Fox right now...

on 2009-05-18 06:49 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] caporali.livejournal.com
OK, I just sent an email to the Sc-Fi channel (I just used the email address they have for feedback on their website), asking them to consider picking up the show... I don't know if it will help, but I thought it was worth a shot. If you guys hear of any kind of campaign, or if you have any idea of what else people can try, let me know.

(I know, this is the third time I've posted this reply over 3 different TSCC-related LJs... I apologize for the repetition, if this is the third time you've read this!)

Indeed.

on 2009-05-18 07:03 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loganwaters.livejournal.com
Best SF ever broadcast on network TV. Period.

It was just too smart for network TV, too smart for the casual viewers who wanted mayhem every second, and certainly too smart for the suits at Fox. This was the Sopranos of SF, and they let it die.

Congrats, guys, you've outdone NBC's short-sightedness in canceling ST:TOS in 1969. Just as stupid a decision, but after seeing all the revenue lost with ST, you really should have known better.

Roxy, thanks for the great commentary and the wonderful Comicals.

You're too smart for network TV too.

on 2009-05-18 07:13 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxybisquaint.livejournal.com
Yeah it's unfair to blame Dollhouse, but I know what you mean. I can't imagine ever loving another show as much as I love TSCC. And aside from the hurt and devastation of losing it, I find it immensely frustrating that more people didn't watch it. And I'm also angry at Fox for simply not understanding what kind of show they had in TSCC. It really was too good for them.

on 2009-05-18 07:13 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] bobmacpharson.livejournal.com
Reposted from the last thread because this seems where all the cool kids are posting now.

Dollhouse's 13th episode was produced with a skeleton budget. Joss relied heavily on that for his pitch for Season 2 - demonstrating he could produce the show for much less. A deal was worked out in which Fox shoulders a lower percentage of the cost.

My question for you guys (I do not intend this as flame bait at all, it's an honest question) is this: judging from various comments across the board, it's pretty obvious by this point that what really sealed the deal on the show was the middle Sarah arc, which disappointed most of the target demographic at a time when they really needed to be revitalized.

If hypothetically, you had a choice to get 9 more episodes of average level Sarah-centric-ness, at the cost of the middle Sarah Arc getting replaced by something with lots of explosions and Summer Glau, would you do it? Would you answer change depending on how many more episodes could be guarranteed?

on 2009-05-18 07:14 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxybisquaint.livejournal.com
No there really aren't. They failed the show. They failed the fans.

Re: Indeed.

on 2009-05-18 07:19 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] roxybisquaint.livejournal.com
Best SF ever broadcast on network TV. Period.

It was just too smart for network TV, too smart for the casual viewers who wanted mayhem every second, and certainly too smart for the suits at Fox.


Perfectly said.


Roxy, thanks for the great commentary and the wonderful Comicals.

You're too smart for network TV too.


Aw. Thanks :)

Oh man, this sucks. This really truly sucks. I don't want this fandom to disappear. I like it. I like everyone I've met because of it. And maybe that's what saddens me most — thinking all these good times are done or will gradually dwindle.

on 2009-05-18 07:35 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zanpakto.livejournal.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8nt7BPUaVI
maybe this will cheer you up a little. It helped me.

But yea, I feel like dumping my TV on FOX's lawn.

A thought...

on 2009-05-18 07:44 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] loganwaters.livejournal.com
Rox, how 'bout a final Comicals in which Cromartie (or maybe the whole cast?) walk into the Fox executive suites and... you know.

Very cathartic, I should think.

on 2009-05-18 08:21 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] usagiko.livejournal.com
Fucking itself is too good for it, ugh.

Re: A thought...

on 2009-05-18 08:21 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] usagiko.livejournal.com
Agreed. DO IT.
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