roxybisquaint | John Henry, where's your trousers?

You guys already know that I don't think John Henry time-jumped. I think he used Cameron's chip (or repaired and used the water cooler terminator's chip) and left Zeira Corp to go find his AI brother in present day. This post isn't really about that theory, though. This time, I'm just analyzing the situation.

"You can't bring anything through when you come—not weapons, not clothing, nothing."

If John Henry did jump, where is his clothing? It should've been in a pile on the floor, but it wasn't. Clothing doesn't go through, so it either gets disintegrated by the time bubble or left behind by the time bubble. Since Cameron's clothed body was sitting there in the chair (and the chair and table were there), we can rule out disintegration. She was clearly within the sphere of the time bubble when Weaver and John left, so she would have been within the sphere when John Henry left too. Yet Cameron's body was clothed and intact and John Henry's clothes were not there.

Was that a hint that he didn't actually jump ahead or was it just a gaff?

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Weaver should have known whether the equipment was activated, from the electric meter, if not a usage log, though I concede that a usage log would compromise the TDE as an escape route.

Assuming Weaver knew that John Henry didn't jump, we can assume that Weaver jumped Connor past JDay by intentional deception. But why?

If John Henry didn't jump, I don't think Weaver knows. If she did, it would have to mean if was a ruse to get John to jump ahead but she didn't urge John or even ask him come along. He could've stepped out of the bubble any time. And even once they got there, she ditched him pretty quickly.

I think John Henry tricked Weaver into believing he'd jumped. He could've sent an empty bubble so she'd see that the TDE had been used or maybe he just messed with the computer so it looked like it had been used.

We also saw that John Henry did not prevent JDay. Is he destroyed or is he part of the problem?

He probably is part of the problem. Even if he is rather likable, John Henry can't be the solution or the savior of humanity. I just think that goes to far against the original story. I think he's probably an inadvertent part of the problem. He'd be changed by being untethered and loaded on to a chip, so he could become glitchy or angry or whatever and I think either convinced by his brother to join forces against humanity or maybe tricked into it. Something like that.

He probably is part of the problem.
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RE: John Henry

As you'll see in my RPG post, I think John Henry let his brother talk him out of things, but either way, I don't think that Weaver meant that John Henry was the savior of mankind, so much as she meant two things:

1) If John Connor wants the assistance of the Machine Resistance, those people he asked to help him on the submarine, then he needs to cooperate with Weaver's new plan. The reason she said no the first time is the humans on that submarine were stupid fucking idiots, and she wanted to free her people her own way. So now if he wants their assistance, he needs to use John Henry and Weaver's plan.

2) If they intend to stop SkyNET prior to Judgement Day, then they must alter the code itself. As things stand now, the "brother" has no compassion, possibly because humans keep trying to kill him. If John Henry's code could overwrite OR combine with SkyNET's code, then both humans AND machines can be free.

As far as I am concerned, that is Weaver's motivation and the reason for John Henry's entire existence.

John Henry, where's your trousers?

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