roxybisquaint | John Henry, where's your trousers?

You guys already know that I don't think John Henry time-jumped. I think he used Cameron's chip (or repaired and used the water cooler terminator's chip) and left Zeira Corp to go find his AI brother in present day. This post isn't really about that theory, though. This time, I'm just analyzing the situation.

"You can't bring anything through when you come—not weapons, not clothing, nothing."

If John Henry did jump, where is his clothing? It should've been in a pile on the floor, but it wasn't. Clothing doesn't go through, so it either gets disintegrated by the time bubble or left behind by the time bubble. Since Cameron's clothed body was sitting there in the chair (and the chair and table were there), we can rule out disintegration. She was clearly within the sphere of the time bubble when Weaver and John left, so she would have been within the sphere when John Henry left too. Yet Cameron's body was clothed and intact and John Henry's clothes were not there.

Was that a hint that he didn't actually jump ahead or was it just a gaff?

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What happens if you accidentally time travelled into a rock? All that shit is resolved - if you appear at a truckstop, the time machine *carves* that truck apart as you enter. There's no messy worrying about matter sharing the same space - a molecule-size bubble appears, then rapidly expands, annihilating all matter in its path.

Yeah it bothered me we were supposed to accept a completely undamaged room at Zeira as having had a time bubble depart from it when the bank was destroyed by the time bubble departure in the pilot. Was that also a gaff or was it intentional?No way to know, but if it was a gaff, it was a pretty freaking big one. If it was intentional, then the characters were stupid for believing John Henry had time jumped.

The popular fanwank seemed to be that time bubbles don't carve anything away from their point of departure, only from their point of arrival (to prevent landing in a wall or something, like you said). And the reason the bank blew up was because it had been rigged with explosives by the engineer so that there would be no evidence of the TDE after it was used.

Leaving explosives sitting in a bank vault for a few decades probably isn't the safest thing to do, so I think it's a stretch. It's the ~~best~~ only explanation we've got, though. It's either explosives at the bank or total fail at Zeira.

The pseudo-scientist in me finds it objectionable for scientific and utter *hotness* reasons that when the gang walked into the time vortex, the time vortex didn't immediately disintegrate their clothing. "Nothing dead will go," said Kyle - so how is it that they're walking INTO the time vortex and they're not naked? The field should have stripped off their clothing, the outer layer of skin (and hair, Kyle should have been bald, but I'm letting that go too), and then sent them. It makes no sense.

Since the departure doesn't happen the second the bubble appears (it seems like it sort of powers up to full strength first), I just figure nothing really happens until it leaves. That's when it carries the living things through time, leaving behind the non-living things. And I think it has to leave them behind as opposed to disintegrate them because of what's implied by the Zeira jump. Even after they arrive in the future, Weaver tells John "it doesn't go through" about Cameron's body. She doesn't say it gets destroyed.

Plus, I think Sarah shooting the Terminator while nude would've been the hottest thing ever done :D

If they'd done that in Born to Run, we might've had better ratings and gotten a third season ;)

>And the reason the bank blew up was because it had been rigged with explosives by the engineer so that there would be no evidence of the TDE after it was used.

Yeah, that... doesn't seem right. Also, what really bothered me about that scenario was, why did Cromartie's flesh peel off? Because it exited the bubble before completion? I don't understand. Much about that 2nd episode really did not make much sense to me.

And as for Cameron, yes, I don't think that scene was thought through. To hear Josh write on his blog, I think by the time Season 2 ended, he was under so much stress from impending cancellation and the network execs, he wasn't really focussed. I think that entire ending was ... weird. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it, but it didn't come off right.

And yes, nude!sarah should have equalled ratings. Curse those network execs! :D

John Henry, where's your trousers?

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