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roxybisquaint) wrote2010-04-29 04:38 pm
roxybisquaint) wrote2010-04-29 04:38 pm
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John Henry, where's your trousers?
You guys already know that I don't think John Henry time-jumped. I think he used Cameron's chip (or repaired and used the water cooler terminator's chip) and left Zeira Corp to go find his AI brother in present day. This post isn't really about that theory, though. This time, I'm just analyzing the situation.
"You can't bring anything through when you come—not weapons, not clothing, nothing."
If John Henry did jump, where is his clothing? It should've been in a pile on the floor, but it wasn't. Clothing doesn't go through, so it either gets disintegrated by the time bubble or left behind by the time bubble. Since Cameron's clothed body was sitting there in the chair (and the chair and table were there), we can rule out disintegration. She was clearly within the sphere of the time bubble when Weaver and John left, so she would have been within the sphere when John Henry left too. Yet Cameron's body was clothed and intact and John Henry's clothes were not there.
Was that a hint that he didn't actually jump ahead or was it just a gaff?
"You can't bring anything through when you come—not weapons, not clothing, nothing."
If John Henry did jump, where is his clothing? It should've been in a pile on the floor, but it wasn't. Clothing doesn't go through, so it either gets disintegrated by the time bubble or left behind by the time bubble. Since Cameron's clothed body was sitting there in the chair (and the chair and table were there), we can rule out disintegration. She was clearly within the sphere of the time bubble when Weaver and John left, so she would have been within the sphere when John Henry left too. Yet Cameron's body was clothed and intact and John Henry's clothes were not there.
Was that a hint that he didn't actually jump ahead or was it just a gaff?
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Wasn't the bank reduced to rubble? Charley says there was just a "hole in the ground" where the bank used to be when he got to LA. Which was useful cos that would also have conveniently destroyed what was left of Cromartie's endo, and allowed Ellison to think the Connors were dead for a few years.
I just always figured that, if they had the time, people using the TDE would get undressed beforehand but, if you were in a rush (a la the Connors in the bank) then you just got stripped off by the process. I also guess that all the TDEs must work slightly differently, otherwise - if we're going along the lines of the bank destruction - Sarah and Ellison and Zeira would all have been obliterated when John and Weaver jumped.
But then, this show certainly did have its fair share of gaffes...
Bank Vault TDE
Since encrypted radios have had auto destruct features all along, wouldn't such a feature be expected in TDE?
Since Sarah was still alive after John and CW jumped, we can just assume that Weaver didn't set the auto-destruct sequence.
Never mind that there was a "not really" nuclear plasma rifle ("Hope") in the bank vault bubble when the TDE was activated.
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Oh hey! Now that's actually an explanation I can get on board with. I have always rolled my eyes at the notion that the bank vault was rigged to blow when the TDE was used. I just don't buy explosives sitting in a bank for decades. It's too risky. But the plasma rifle... yeah! I can believe the that when the "not really" nuclear isotope solution encounters the energy of the time bubble departing, it could have enough of a reaction to blow the bank to bits. Nicely done!
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Oh, I don't know about that. It's not really outside the realm of possibility when you consider that people are still being killed by unexploded landmines from World War I. Modern explosives are pretty stable, and really hard to set off by accident. I mean, compared to having a time machine with super-advanced power source and a "not really" nuclear isotope sitting around....
They kind of don't need explosives, tho. The TDE or whatever was powering it was packing so much energy that all you'd probably have to do to cause an explosion is breach containment or overload it.
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There's nothing wrong with the "not really nuclear gun + TDE = BOOM" theory. It's entirely possible that firing the gun during the transfer damaged something in the TDE and resulted in the explosion. Like I said: lot of energy = big chance of going boom.
But given that the Resistance is frequently trying to prevent future tech from contaminating the timeline and accelerating Skynet (or at least the Connors are... it occurs to me that we don't know how the Resistance feels about it) and that a time machine is about as dangerous as technology can get, it wouldn't surprise me if they had a self-destruct built into it.
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Yeah, the bank was destroyed, so Zeira should've been too. A lot of people explained that away as there having been explosives planted at the vault to destroy the evidence once the TDE was used. I don't really buy that, but it's either that or we have a bigger contradiction than missing clothing.
Despite Gnothi Seauton being my favorite episode, I hate hate hate Cromartie's headless endo emerging from the rubble, killing people and going on a quest to find its head. That was just... dumb. Equally dumb was that the endo was even still in that pile of rubble. The bank explosion was a crime scene involving grade-A whack-a-mole Sarah Connor. The FBI would've combed through every bit of that rubble. But instead, it gets carted away to some junkyard to sit for 8 years. Uh huh.
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*giggles* I have been known to employ sarcasm when the situation has warranted it.
A lot of people explained that away as there having been explosives planted at the vault to destroy the evidence once the TDE was used.
Naw, they just gaffed. I like the "not really" nuclear explanation, but that's a pretty specific and remarkably contained not really nuclear explosion that doesn't then warrant any mention at any future point. Consequently, I think we're just left to choose our own fave fan wank and get on with it.
I hate hate hate Cromartie's headless endo emerging from the rubble, killing people and going on a quest to find its head.
I'm such a bad fan. I never even realised that Cromartie's body had remained intact despite the explosion. Oh Sarah, you did leave a few endo parts lying around didn't you? And yes, the police absolutely would have combed that bank for remains and found the damn thing (and then also realised Sarah and co weren't actually dead but let's not be adding gaff to gaff to gaff to...)
I'd never actually considered how stupid it was to have a brainless endo reconstituting itself... and now I have, it's very silly. But I kinda liked the way that storyline ran (with the plastic surgery and the blood) so I think I'll give it a pass. It's easier that way *sticks fingers in ears* la la lalalala...I can't hear your logic now... ;-)
Head + Endo + WiFi
There should have been an episode where John Connor hacked that channel.
Of course, CroMo's body should have been running into things, or tapping a white cane or something: no vision in the chassis. Comic relief?
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